Interview with a Political Party: Chris Stevens of the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party

By The Douginator

This is probably the most off the wall interview yet. The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party is a politically correct group of Nazi's. I wasn't sure if doing an interview with them was a good idea. I don't want to promote hate. I was at one point thinking about interviewing a guy by the name of John Bowles who was running as a Nazi. I watched a video of his and read up on him and everything he had to say was full of hate. I couldn't see myself sharing his story with anyone. This group is a bit different. I read up on this group and while I don't agree with what they have to say, they don't do it with any hate. Unlike the Nazi's we think of, this group doesn't want to commit genocide on any group of people. In fact, this group is pretty peaceful. The name gets me too. It starts off on the right side of the fence with the Libertarians and crosses over to the left side with the Green. It seems like opposing ideaology. If this group is just fictional they have done an awful lot of work and thinking to mesh all three together.

Platform for Jump-Starting Western Nations (Find More Here)

1. Tax cuts for environmental objectives

2. Removal of normative objectives

3. Restore autonomy to the states

4. Reduction of legal complexity

5. Repatriation of non-Germanic populations

6. Create cultural center to oversee media

7. Reputable international politics

8. All undeveloped land is purchased by government

9. Tax incentives for inner city development

10. Repeal of laws limiting citizen autonomy

11. Return to strict meritocracy in hiring and education

12. Any area more than 50% concreted must begin planting

13. End tax-free status of religious organizations

14. Certain destructive things banned

 



> Who came up with the LNSG Party?

Craig Smith and Robert Lindstrom are our founding members. Professionals in the computing and legal fields, they were discussing the future of their children one evening and came up with the idea that humanity would expand recklessly unless forced to desist. This is what converted them from democratic liberals to authoritarians: the knowledge that unless forced otherwise, the selfishness of individuals would destroy the human race and planet earth.

> How many members are in your group?

We do not have a membership structure, as this causes legal problems. Rather, we produce ideological texts and media for others to consume and appreciate, and they are able to infuse those ideas into all parts of their lives and political activism. You can be an LNSG member and be a Green, a Democrat, a Republican, a Libertarian, an independent, etc. We are a new type of political party best explained in the essay "Asymmetric Activism"

> What is the biggest issue in America as you see it?

America, like the rest of humanity, needs to decide our future. Do we keep expanding recklessly until we've destroyed our environment, and each other, just for the pretense of equality? Or do we limit ourselves as a species, concentrate on the best we can do instead of participation by everyone, and have a livable planet from which we can explore the stars?

I'm not speaking at all of race here, as it is a corollary to the issue of expansion. Even if the world were entirely white people, I would see it this way: we have too many humans, and they will act selfishly if not controlled, at which point they will consume everything edible on earth and leave behind a mountain of waste and a dead ecosystem. They will either exterminate themselves in the process, or regress backward to a simplified version of humanity.

This issue is the father of all other issues. We need to find a goal for our society based in our long-term preservation, pick a values system and method to accomplish it, and then act on it. If we do not act, we die. If we do not act for decisive change in the type of system we have, we will arrive back at this point soon. No one is going to fix this but humans, yet humans are not addressing it.

> You want to relocate the various non-Germanic races....does that make you racist?

In contemporary terminology, the word for "race" in the phrase "non-Germanic races" would be "ethnicity." We do wish to relocate non-Germanic ethnicities. This makes us nationalists, because our guiding principle is that every nation must be composed of people in consensus over values and direction, and that this is best achieved through similarity in culture, language and heritage.

"Racism" is an artifact of multicultural, globalism society. A "racist" is someone who wants to live in a multicultural society but be above other people on this basis of his or her race. However, we don't believe that. Being white doesn't make you good or preferred. We want a nationalist society in which we can weed out the white people who are criminals, parasites, perverts and morons while rewarding the white people who are intelligent, kind, adaptive and wise. That is how you make a great society and we want a great society, not a failing one like we have now.

For us to do this requires that we separate each group by nationality, or ethnicity. Different ethnicities have different standards. Applying German ethnic standards to Russians or Nigerians could be disastrous and cruel, so we would like to separate into a Germanic group. Note, however, that in the use of our term "Germanic (ethnicities)" we are speaking of Western Europe. The English are Germanic, Anglo-Saxon; the Dutch are Germanic tribes, as are most French, Northern Italians, Swiss, Austrians and many Scots and Poles. We claim solidarity with our Nordic-Germanic brethren in Scandinavia as well.

America was founded by the English and populated mostly by Germans, Dutch, Scandinavians and Scots. We view these groups as Germanic ethnicities.

> Tell us a funny bar joke using a LNSG member...it should start like " A LNSG member walks into a bar...."...finish


An LNSG member walks into a bar. George W. Bush is on the television.

"I don't trust that guy," says the bartender. "He's a f-----g Nazi."

"He'll turn this country into a concentration camp," says a nearby Rabbi. "Just like Hitler."

"Unlikely," says the LNSG member. "More probably, he'll turn it into a giant mall with Coca-Cola, Big Macs and leftist cinema for all. Those who disagree won't be able to get jobs and won't have health insurance so they'll die of cancers. It will be the opposite of a concentration camp: it will be pure freedom, in which individualism leads to slavery."

The bartender grimaces. "What are you, some kind of commie?"

"No, I'm a f-----g Nazi," says the LNSG member.

(I don't know how funny it is, but realistic, yes.)

> How would one become a member of your party?

We do not have membership. Anyone who agrees with our ideas and works to make them come into form, through whatever party or mechanism, is a "member" of our party.

> How many LNSG members have ran for office?
> Do you have a presidential candidate?


Several LNSG members have run for office, but none under the banner of the LNSG. We have not yet announced a presidential candidate, but intend to do so next year.

> Did the Holocaust happen? Was it regretful?

From the way history has been distorted for the gain of oligarchs, it's hard to tell. I don't think it's a good idea to holocaust Jews. I would rather export them to Israel, which seems to have been Hitler's original idea. Regret is a moral term, and morality is a fantasy world which directly opposes the real world, in which getting society organized in a healthy fashion is the only question that matters.

> Are you guys some kind of joke?

Not to my knowledge.

> Murder...good or bad?

Depends on who is murdered. The state murders murderers, and war is nothing but murder. Then again, killing an unsuspecting grandmother so you can take $500 worth of jewelry is a different issue.

The only way to think about murder is in natural terms: did this murder make the species healthier or less healthy? If you murder a criminal, pervert, retard or parasite, there should be no "crime." But killing someone who had something to give is a bad idea.

> If you could tell me one thing about LNSG members...what would you say?

They've done their homework, learned the history and political theory necessary to understand what we're about, and now are ready to make "radical" decisions that are really less radical than our current society. Our society now is based on illusion, which is the most radical you can get. The LNSG advocates a return to reality, and pragmatic solutions to human problems.

> What mainstream candidate would you most likely vote for and why?

The only candidates that have impressed me are Ralph Nader and Ron Paul. If Nader is running I will vote for him.

> Anything else?


I appreciate your asking some insightful questions. I would like to say this: human life is worth living on both an individual level and as a group, but the individual must never place him or herself before either the group or nature itself. There is an order to this universe, and we've used technology to avoid paying attention to it, and the results have been disastrous.

The LNSG suggests we return to a scientific, natural order and make humanity aim for being higher than it was before, instead of its status quo aim, which is to expand with "equality" but not actually get better at anything but making technology and money. We see technology and money as means to an end, and that end is the creation of a great civilization like that of the ancient Romans, Greeks, Maya, Aztec, Indians or Mongols. We want great architecture; great art; great thought and great people of huge hearts and heroic wills.

Instead, right now we have a population devoted to individual comfort and mediocre art, boring architecture (and ugly plastic-concrete cities), and people of small minds and profit-oriented wills. As a species, we cannot wage war against the pitfalls of human life. We need to find goals that are more important, much like we cannot end death, but need to find something so important to do with our time that we regret death less. We need to find a path to a higher goal or we will become earthbound both metaphorically and literally.

When you think about the people you've known, you may find as I have that the really great ones are the people who did not fret over the small details of life. In my life, these have been the people who always had a mission, whether one of art or running a small business or spiritual devotion. They were not bothered by frustrating details, because they always had something better to look toward. That's what the LNSG wants to do for humanity.

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